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Part 2 - Chapter 29. Survival of the Assemblage Point.

Although Carlos frequently mentioned the topic of death, he avoided talking about what happens after a person dies.

On one occasion it seemed like a good opportunity to investigate his opinion on it.

I asked him, "Carlos. What happens to us when we die?"

He answered, "It depends. Death touches us all, but it is not the same for everyone. Everything depends on one's energy level."

He assured me that the death of an ordinary person is the end of his journey; the moment when he has to return to the Eagle all the awareness he obtained while alive.

Carlos said, "If we do not have anything else than our life force to offer it, we will be finished. That kind of death erases any feeling of unity."

I asked him if that was his particular opinion, or part of the traditional knowledge of seers.

He answered, "It is not an opinion. I have been on the other side and I know.

"I have seen children and adults wandering over there and I have observed their efforts to remember themselves.

"For those who dissipated their energy in life, death is like a fleeting dream filled with bubbles of steadily fading memories, and then nothing."

I asked, "Do you mean that when we dream, we approach the state of the dead?"

Carlos answered, "We do not just approach it, we are there. But since the vitality of our body remains intact, we can return.

"To die is literally a dream.

"You see, when ordinary persons dream, they are not able to focus their attention on anything.

"They do not have anything but their fragmented memories fed by the experiences they have accumulated in the course of their lives.

"When ordinary people die, the difference is that their dream lengthens and they do not wake up again. It is the dream of death.

"The journey of death can take them to a virtual world of appearances, where they will contemplate the materialization of their beliefs, of their heavens and private hells; but nothing else.

"Such visions start disappearing in time as the impulses of memory wear out."

I asked, "And what happens to the souls of those who die?"

Carlos said, "The soul does not exist. What exists is energy.

"Once the physical body disappears, the only thing left is an energy entity fed by memory.

"Some individuals are so oblivious of themselves that they die almost without realizing it.

"People who die with a blockage of their assemblage point are like people with amnesia. They can no longer align memories because they do not have any continuity.

"As such, while they live they feel permanently on the brink of oblivion. Then when they die, those people disintegrate almost instantaneously. The impulse of their lives only lasts for a few years at the most.

"However, most people take a little longer disintegrating, between one hundred and two hundred years. The ones who had lives full of meaning can resist for half a millennium. The range expands even more for those who were able to create bonds with masses of people. They can retain their awareness during entire millennia."

I asked, "How do they achieve that?"

"Through the attention of their followers. Memory creates bonds among live beings and those who have left life. That is how they stay aware. And that is why cults of historical personalities are so pernicious.

"However, that was the intent of those who in the past were mummified. To preserve their name in history.

"Ironically, it is the greatest damage that can be inflicted on energy. If you seriously want to punish a person, bury him in a lead casket. His confusion never ends.

"It does not matter what ordinary people do or how they have lived. They do not have the smallest chance of continuing ahead.

"For sorcerers who live facing eternity, five years or five millennia are nothing.

"That is why they say that death for ordinary people is an instantaneous disintegration."

I wanted to know if dead people can return to contact the living.

Carlos answered, "Relationships among residents of various spheres of awareness can only be made through the alignment of the assemblage point.

"Death is a final perceptive barrier.

"Living people can go to the realm of the dead through dreams, but that is the kind of thing a warrior does not enter into because it only wears away his energy.

"Something very different, on the other hand, is to contact sorcerers who have left."

I asked, "Why?"

Carlos said, "Because you are able to reach your energy double, and to retain your individuality using sorcery techniques."

I asked, "How can we enter into relationships with that kind of awareness?"

He replied, "In dreaming. However, it is very difficult for a sorcerer who has already left to fix his attention on this world unless he or she has some specific task to complete.

"And it is more than difficult for an ordinary man to support that contact.

"Interaction with these beings is gratifying for warriors, but terrifying for the average person.

"An inorganic sorcerer is not a ghost, but rather is an intense source of aware and implacable energy that is able to damage those who recklessly come near that inorganic sorcerer.

"For an ordinary person that kind of contact can be even more dangerous than an exchange with a live sorcerer."

I asked, "What does the danger consist of?"

Carlos said, "It is in the nature of the sorcerers energy. If you believe sorcerers are friendly people, you are mistaken. They are naguals.

"There is a very morbid feature in our constitution that impels all of us to use any means necessary. It is something natural and we can not avoid it.

"That feature is exacerbated in a living sorcerer, and magnified after his or her departure, because there are no longer any inhibitions to counteract it.

"When the sorcerer becomes inorganic, he or she returns to what they always were; a cosmic, predatory emanation."





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